This article contains an interview with David Luan, one of OpenAI's early hires, a past leader of Google's LLM efforts and co-leader of Google Brain, and founder of Adept, one of the leading companies in the AI agents space, where he discusses his time with early OpenAI and how Adept is building agents that can do anything humans can do on a computer. Google had a huge lead with AI in 2017, but it was OpenAI that ended up making GPT 1/2/3. While Google's team created Transformers, the company's internal processes made it difficult for its researchers to get work done. OpenAI was able to beat Google because it took big swings and focused.